2020, September 23rd at 15:25 #26562AlainParticipantTopics: 1Replies: 1
I’m a french amateur gardener for around 15 years and the late editor of the bulletin ‘Plantes de Montagne’ of the french alpine garden society: SAJA (Société des Amateurs de Jardins Alpins). I grow about 25 species and subspecies in the garden.
I’m writing for our bulletin short articles of 2 or 3 pages (under A5 format) on all known peonies and under the last classification (Hong De-Yuan 2010). To illustrate those articles I need images of all species, as unfortunately I still do not grow all species and subspecies!
I have received authorisation to use articles (to be translated by myself) for recently described species such as Paeonia wendelboi, P. archibaldii and received the original images. I still have a lot of photos to get in order to finalise my work as I would like then to compile all articles in a booklet of about 120 to 130 or 150 pages in the same format.
The images of species I’m looking for are: Paeonia sterniana, P. sandrae, P. parnassica, P. boduri, P. daurica ssp. tomentosa, P. daurica ssp. macrophylla, P. daurica ssp. velebitensis and P. californica.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Alain Denis - South of Paris region
2020, September 25th at 08:50 #26565khurtekantModeratorTopics: 36Replies: 33
I can get you images of P. mascula bodurii (here’s one below, showing some details of the flower). Your best bet to get the other images are in the following two facebook groups.
Both are ‘private’ groups but anyone with an interest in peony species is welcome to join. I usually post in the first group as there is some overlap (of members and images). I would have to look it up, but I think the ‘group rules’ even state that you can use the images so long as you give a reference to the photographer and the facebook group. Otherwise it’s easy to ask of course, I’ve done that a few times to get images for this site as well.
P. sterniana is probably nowhere, only Carsten Burkhardt has some images of it (he’s on the site, you could contact him @paeon ). The botanic garden of Edinburgh grows it, but it is not doing well and hasn’t flowered for years. They have sent out seeds several years ago. Alas, they couldn’t tell me the names of the private persons that received the seeds due to privacy reasons. And the few commercial/educational ones that tried it and for which I did get names, didn’t have success with it. As you’re from France, perhaps you know Eric Schmitt, who wrote a series about the peony species:
LES PIVOINES ÉTUDE SYSTÉMATIQUE DU GENRE PAEONIA L. Plantes de Montagne et de Rocaille Société des Amateurs de Jardins Alpin 1996-2000
He also received some seeds of sterniana and I’ve tried to contact him, but could not locate him. Perhaps you are better acquainted with garden specialists in your country. I think he is somehow connected with the botanic garden of Lyon.
You are missing out on P. arietina ssp arasicola probably, though that one is nowhere documented except for some obscure Turkish literature. I have a small plant growing of it, perhaps it will flower next year. P. wendelboi and archibaldii are indeed the only other ones that I’ve read about. There are some doubts that P. daurica is well described in Hong’s work, I’ve seen daurica from the Crimean peninsula with wavy leaflets and daurica classified as the same with other leaflets, but I’m no specialist. Better ask in the facebook groups mentioned before, many Russians there.
I think the other peonies you mention I’ve seen images already in those facebook groups, even P. daurica ssp velebitensis.
Growing peonies for cutflowers in Belgium. Also hybridizing them.
2020, September 25th at 09:12 #26568AlainParticipantTopics: 1Replies: 1
Thanks a lot for your long and detailed reply. It will help me to go ahead.
As you suggest, I will contact the ‘private’ specialised groups you mention.
I have ordered peonies to the belgian ‘nursery’ Albiflora (at albiflora.be) which are guaranteed as the true species: P. boduri, kesrouanensis, broteri, lactiflora and cambessedesis. I also grow peonies from seed with success.
As a member of the Société des Amateurs de Jardins Alpins for 30 years I have the complete series of articles written by Eric Schmitt. His peony collection is now managed by the Jardin botanique de Lyon and I will contact the person in charge of it.
Thank you again
Alain Denis - South of Paris region
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