- 2019, January 3rd at 09:06 #22262
- 2019, January 3rd at 21:21 #22271YuriParticipant@yurilaTopics: 0Replies: 6
Это хорошая идея сайта и он хорошо просматривается на самых разных носителях. Пользоваться удобно. У меня есть одно небольшое предложение по фото к описанию сортов. Было бы хорошо если фото точно соответствует тексту описания. Это особенно важно по белым сортам, потому что очень похожих сортов довольно много и важен каждый нюанс
- 2019, January 4th at 07:46 #22272
Thank you. About the images in the cultivar database, there are only a few ones present now which I took myself mostly. It’s possible for site visitors to upload images along with the comments about the cultivars. The cultivar database does have room for improvement (there are only just over 1,100 varieties in it, it could use multiple image uploads, more image formats, better search options and so on), but for now I’m lacking the technical prowess to be able to change it much further and I personally don’t consider it a priority as there are two other large peony databases on the web available that in fact offer the possibility to be merged into one super-database (but a marriage takes two…)
Taking images that correspond exactly to the specification of the cultivar registration is very difficult. Mainly for two reasons.
- Many white peony flowers change color during blooming time, usually from some pink shade towards white. That is also the case for many other colors as well (just take at look at the video of Coral Sunset changing color). When it’s sunny and hot this tends to happen faster, or when it’s cold the pink may appear much darker and last longer. So the flower on any single day may look completely different, you would need a picture of the flower nearly every day.
- The light/sun conditions can make the flower color look completely different. It’s very difficult to make a good image of a peony, most of all a white one, when there’s a lot of sun. You would need a clear but still slightly cloudy day without any direct sunlight to take a good picture.
The American Peony Society has its own database of peonies, 4,000-5,000 of them with currently over a 1,000 varieties with an image added to them. http://americanpeonysociety.org/cultivar-registration/peony-cultivars All registered cultivars are there and a few older ones that were added without registration long ago. What is missing are more recent cultivars that have not been registered (many European ones) and most Chinese/Japanese cultivars. You can easily search the database by date, cultivar name, breeder and so on.
Carsten Burkhardt’s website http://www.paeon.de also has a database of peonies, with far more varieties, including those that were never registered. It also includes many descriptions from books and other websites, sometimes even in other languages. Next to that there are lots of images, not to mention the other very interesting sections of the website (breeders, the works of AP Saunders, a literature overview with many links and so on). It would be the perfect informative peony site but, alas, it hasn’t been updated in almost a decade and I don’t expect this to change anymore. The fact that it hasn’t received any updates is one of the main reasons I’ve created this site http://www.peonysociety.eu . There would be no challenging Carsten’s website when it comes to the amount of information present, but everything becomes outdated when nothing new is added. I’ve tried to contact him a few times to merge his site into this one, but I’ve never been able to reach him. Perhaps I should try again.
Thank you for your comments.
Webmaster of The Peony Society
- 2019, January 4th at 20:45 #22279YuriParticipant@yurilaTopics: 0Replies: 6
Я все понимаю что это трудная задача и адреса баз данных давно нам знакомы. В базе описание краткое и каждое слово имеет большое значение. Оно не всегда понятно для людей привыкших думать на другом языке. Второй момент. Я заметил что в базе текст описания и фото не дополняют друг друга. Это не для всех. Просто один конкретный пример. По изменениям цвета в зависимости от времени и погоды нам известно. Но если в тексте что-то упоминается важное в описании сорта: цвет, форма или что-то еще, то детальное отражение на фото поможет людям понять правильно смысл написанного. Я не открою секрета что путаница с сортами сохраняется до сих пор, каждый понимает смысл текста по своему. Да это трудная и большая задача
- 2019, January 25th at 18:30 #22495frank-richardsParticipant@frank-richardsTopics: 0Replies: 1
I have been posting photos on facebook, group planet peony. Will these get posted here if i use #thepeonysociety?
if so, where are they posted?
- 2019, January 25th at 20:22 #22500
No, they won’t. The problem there is that Facebook doesn’t allow other websites to extract posts from groups, only public pages can be used (and #hashtags not at all). Thus the public pages of several peony societies and peony nurseries are placed together on this site on the homepage under their own section, which gives a clear overview I think. But those societies that use ‘groups’ instead of pages (for example: the Swedish Peony Society) are not available. That also encompasses very popular groups like planet peony (that want to reach as many people as possible), and smaller more specialized peony species groups (that probably want to keep their discussions to themselves anyway).
It works however on Instagram (and Twitter), be it a business account or a personal account. All one has to do is use the hashtag #thepeonysociety when posting a peony image and when our server looks for updates on instagram it will collect the posts with it, after which they will appear here. Currently they will simply appear under the ‘peonies on social media’ section on the homepage. If peony season is amongst us, or if people start posting some peony images they already have, I can easily create another section on the homepage where they will automatically appear then, maybe I should already do that. Most posts in the section ‘peonies on social media’ are moderated for different reasons and are somewhat delayed until I can look at them, but posts with that hashtag #thepeonysociety are added automatically without moderation.
If you want to post your images in the group planet peony, you could also first post them on Instagram (with #thepeonysociety added) and then simply share them on facebook planet peony, which is what we also did with our trial image post on Instagram. Instagram was created to share images, so it works well this way. If you do it that way, they can be viewed on Instagram, Facebook and here.
Webmaster of The Peony Society
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.