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    khurtekant posted in the group Species Peonies International Network (SPIN)

    1 year, 9 months ago · updated 1 year, 5 months ago

    These are some open pollinated seedlings from Lagodekhi Sunrise, a selection from those lagodechiana hybrids (mloko x caucasica), a natural hybrid which you’ll find in Georgia. They naturally grow in shade, but my seedlings are in full sun. This shows on the leaflets, they are turning into all kinds of colours. I quite like it in fact.

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    • :o So close! Did not know it grew in my Motherland. What DOES not grow in the Caucasus? I will look these up. Turkey’s Black Sea climate might accommodate them.

      • I can see you’re from Turkey. It has probably the most diverse natural collection of peony species of any country. P. peregrina, P. turcica, P. kesrouanensis, P. mascula ssp mascula, P. mascula ssp bodurii, P. arietina, P. tenuifolia, P. daurica ssp daurica, P. daurica ssp macrophylla, P. arietina ssp arasicola and P. x kayae (a hybrid). Perhaps I’m even forgetting some, should look it up. I’m sure you should find at least one species that grows well with you ;-) Close to the Black Sea are P. daurica ssp macrophylla and P. arietina. Especially the macrophylla is very pretty I think.

        • I read with fascination and gratitude. Will definitely look them up, and draw a map!

        • I am from the Caucasus, but I live in Turkey. I am stunned that Anatolia contains so, so many varieties. I will look them up, and, hopefully find and photograph them, even if others have done it before. A local Peony Pilgrimage, if you will, before I go to China and Japan. I am watching CGTN’s documentary The Peony 1-4, and my heart has fallen. I want to go to all the Peony festivals and places listed.
          Did not know I could start at home!

          • This is probably the best article on peonies in Turkey, listing 11 (sub-)species in 54 locations in Turkey. It’s in Turkish but I suppose that will not be a problem for you.

            • I thank you infinitely! However, I cannot but help laugh at the crude ‘Bear Flower’ or ‘Bear Rose’ name our locals have given them. Poor Peonies.

            • I can translate these documents for you, if you wish, as thanks.

            • Oh well, that’s very friendly, thank you. But I’ve run it through Google translate. The translation is very basic and it does happen that some sentences are rather incomprehensible, but it’s good enough to understand the main part. A translation from you would of course be far better, but I think the time needed to translate such a long article would be too much compared to the improvements. I’d rather ask for your help when I come upon a Turkish text where the details are very important and the translation is insufficient. What would be interesting if you could read the article I’ve written on peonies of your country and see whether I’ve made any (large) errors. A big part of the text is based on the Turkish article above.

              These are some open pollinated seedlings from Lagodekhi Sunrise, a selection from those lagodechiana hybrids (mloko x caucasica), a natural hybrid which you’ll find in Georgia. They naturally grow in shade, but my seedlings are in full sun. This shows on the leaflets, they are turning into all kinds of colours. I quite like it in fact. Read More– khurtekant (@khurtekant) 2022, November 17th

        • Well, you surely can. Here’s a map showing where you can find wild peonies in Turkey. There are probably listings with more precise locations, but I’m sure if you look somewhat you can find them. Some people sometimes post images of wild Turkish peonies on facebook, you might have a look there as well and perhaps ask the photographers where they can be found (if you speak the same language that usually helps).

        • Try joining this group on facebook and look for some images of Paeonia turcica, paeonia arietina, paeonia kesrouanensis and paeonia arietina arasicola. There have been images posted of those from Turkey in the last two years at least.

          https://www.facebook.com/groups/308876929648849

          • As much as I appreciate your assistance, I have a deep-rooted aversion to fB since the day they said, ‘We have discovered that you use your fb password on other sites’ back in 2008. I will never join them unless for commercial purposes. I will see what information I can get without joining fb. Much, much appreciated. I love peonies almost as much as I love lotuses. I fall in love with big, majestic, delicately perfumed blooms, it seems. Visiting their wild ancestors in the mountains ought to be a treat!

      • Not that only species peonies grow in Turkey, here’s an instagram account of a commercial peony cut flower farm:
        https://www.instagram.com/kesme_sakayik/

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